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How many firearms will you carry if you bugout?
I am SO SICK AND TIRED of the 'if you could only have ONE firearm' threads.
I mean, really. I can't think of ANYTIME that I don't have a MINIMUM of two to four firearms at hand, loaded, ready to rock and roll. SO, after reading an article posted here on GIM, you decide the balloon is ABOUT to go up. So you pack all your stuff in your BOV and you are on the road to your BOL. So, not trying to find out exactly how many and what type of firearms you have. But when you bug out, how many firearms will you take with you, including what you have at your BOL? Can you equip a basketball team (squad)? How about a baseball team (platoon)? How about football team (company)? So, how about it? Do you have enough magazines for each weapon? How about enough ammo? How about spare parts? Are your weapons similar - such as all battle rifles are AK's or all semi-auto pistols Glocks, etc for Again, I'm NOT looking for specifics. This is the anti-one firearm only thread. IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE FIREARM, you won't have much input. |
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Not planning on bugging out. However, we were going to have a bunch of kids in the house over Christmas while I was gone, so I unloaded the firearms I keep at ready in my bedroom:
- SKS Scout paratrooper w/20 round tapco mag against the wall by my bed - Calico M950 Liberty 9mm pistol w/50 round drum on the bookshelf by the bed - NAA .22 LR revolver in the sock drawer I was surprised to see that I had three. I like the combination: 7.62x39, 9mm, and .22LR. All practical in their own regard. (Sorry about the details -- I know they were unwanted.) |
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I'm more interested in under what circumstances you would "bug out"...
But to answer your question, I've got a battle rifle, a hunting rifle, a handgun and a shotgun. Don't need any more than that. Each gun serves a specific purpose. . |
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Wallew I 2nd your point. I always have two on me plus a long gun in my vehicle. If B.O. time I would have 4. the two I always have and then both flavors of long guns in my vehicle.
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I still think a "quiet" gun (suppressed .22 LR) could be invaluable.
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Im with JP on this one....under which conidtions would one bug out. As has been hashed here many times, bugging out isnt always the best option, at least not initialy.
If the zombies come, you better damn well believe if I have to bug out im taking ALL my guns with me and those I cant carry get handed to the wife and friends/family that may be around. If its cause some one nuked Miami or something (south of me by a few hours) Id be bugging out for sure depending on where that radiation was going, and again, all the guns would be with me. In fact, I cant invision a scenario where I wouldnt take a good majority of my guns, cause even if I cant use each one, some one in the family/group can. THe plan for the near term is to bug in, since I really dont have a place to bug out to and wadnering around on foot till you find suitable land is downright fool-hardy. |
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I'll take all my guns and drive around aimlessly until the cops stop me.
It's my best plan so far. just kidding... in my real plan I don't get caught. |
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The bulk of my weaponry is already on sight at my bug out locale. I'll take nothing from A to B that's not on my person on a daily basis anyhow.
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Heim you make a good point situations vary. I have scattered caches so that all my eggs are not in one basket. I don't plan on sitting still in a head on fight. Hit and run will be my objective to do this I don't want to be packing my gun safe contents. Mobility and firepower must be balanced.
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Professur,
I KNOW where you live geographically. Why in the hell would you bug out from the paradise that you live? Unless to just 'get further away' type of thing? Are you Canucks STILL ALLOWED to own firearms? I keep seeing little hints that this 'right' is going to be taken away. FROM ALL OF US soon enough. OH, and for all those who want to know what would be a reason to bug out. How about the following: As we sit here and read and post things back and forth, someone posts that yes indeed, five US cities were just nuked within five minutes of each other (NYC, MIAMI, HOUSTON, LA, SEATTLE - all port cities) and the vice-president is about to declare martial law because the president is currently MIA in NYC blast zone. They were all suitcase nukes of less than ten megatons each. Less than 100,000 people die in the intial blasts (approx 20k per location). A couple of million others will probably die due to exposure, maybe more. WOULD THAT CAUSE YOU TO BUG OUT? It would me. If that won't get you to bug out, uprooting everything, what WOULD get you to bug out? 'Asian Hordes' coming in across the STEPPES OF RUSSIAN PLAINS? DURING THE WINTER SO THEY CAN JUST RIDE ACROSS THE ALASKAN PENISULA UNDETECTED? Who looks for divisions of tanks on the frozen ocean? It would be a daring ploy, but that TOO would be a bug out situation. ====================== Prof, COMPLETELY OFF TOPIC: The poster is with Greg (84MonteSS) and will then go to Mike (Racerman), then on to Tim (Ragin64) who will ship it back to GE and he and Red Chevy (Coy) will finish the signature parts and then present it to Stacey. GE PROMISES TO GET IT ALL ON VIDEO, so we can get the effect. Seems like a LONG road since that picture was taken two years ago. Thought you would want to know. j |
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three cheers for this thread :23_28_100s:
one gun, I don't think so and neither do the neighbors. wallew, if this locale got nuked then most certainly TSHTF for the USA if not the world. as for me I'd be vaporized and there is no where to go anyways. carpe diem. |
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I am still only going to just carry my baby. I figure it will do every thing I need.
http://www.brassfetcher.com/images/tacticoolAR15.jpg :RockOn: |
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ALL of them and ALL the ammo I can carry.
http://englerpaintballguns.com/catalog/images/mg42.jpg Disclaimer : Includes only firearms that didn't sink with my boat (like the one pictured above) and my PM's. |
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TAD,
Now THAT'S what I'm talking about. BTW, you never did give us a range report on the PPSh41 or was it the PPS43? Or did I just miss the report? |
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Will stay where I am at, see no reason to drive to another location that is probably less secure. If forced out on foot, will carry one pistol/revolver and one long gun. The selection at the time will probably be based on total weight to carry of two guns and ammunition (and perception of primary use 2 vs 4 leg vermin).
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In order to have a bug out loacal, you either have to be extremely prepared (with supplies) or know how to survive for and undetermined amount of time, living off the land. Most people would simply die in that situation - so they won't put themselves in it. Unless you have a well-stocked cabin, miles away from the dangerous hordes, and you will have the ability to get there amidst all the chaos, you need to be the exception to the rule. Most people aren't fitting of either circumstance. Furthermore, if you have a family that depends on you, forget about it...makes the situation that much more difficult. |
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BUT IT'S WRONG. Just go ask all the folks who DIDN'T leave when Katrina was five days or five hours from destroying large portions of the Gulf Coast. There is NO REASON NOT TO BUG OUT. Unless you just can't. Family IS the best example. But it seems to me, that over the centuries, the folks with the 'fight or flight' mentality have survived (mainly) while those who just sit it out are at the mercy of whatever or whomever decides their fate for them. I WILL NOT BE ONE OF THE FOLKS WHO DID NOT LEAVE. EVER. I've been through so many natural disasters, including three hurricanes, that if I SEE trouble coming, I almost always turn and go the other way. WHY ASK FOR TROUBLE. Life is difficult enough WITHOUT seeking more problems. That's why this thread was posted in the first place. I love reading FerFal. But why he continues to stay in Argentina as Sheet actually Hits The Fan, is a puzzle. Yes, I know why. But still, so MANY people have been one hour too late, rather than one day too early. I would prefer to be early. Even by several weeks or months. Than one day too late. That's why I prefer to bug out. And if you've read my posts before, you know I have three locations to choose from. Though it appears my group will be narrowing those choices down shortly. We will see. Time is short. Get ready. BE PREPARED. |
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No... that's just the front sight assembly.:biggrin:
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Wallew, my main abode is in suburbia, by reason of my career choices. My bug out is 2 hours west into the mountains. Fresh water, shelter, and far enough off the beaten track to leave the zombie hordes behind to feed on each other. As for weaponry, .... well, you're a registered gunsmith .... how long would it take you to build a Sterling?
I'd have to say that I'd go to ground there, tho. It would take something pretty substantial to push me out. Worse, if I had to leave there, my second choice would involve retracing my steps eastwards, heading back through the thick of whatever nightmare drove me to bug out in the first place. Going further west wouldn't improve my situation any, as I'd just be getting closer to Ottawa and Toronto. Hell, i don't even want to go there now. |
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Not planning on bugging out. :wavey:
However, if we have to... :fan: pistol: G19 for wife, G21 for me, G22 for son :ok: Rifle: .223(AR) for wife, .308(Saiga) for me, SKS for son :ok: Shotgun:one 870 with screw-in chokes :ok: Additional: 22 pistol or rifle. :ok: |
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Depending on weight restrictions, conditions, etc as a middle of the road plan I'd be taking a long gun (.308), a sidearm & pocket gun (both .40) and perhaps a foldable (.223 or .22) hidden in a pack.
If possible, I'd throw a shottie, a 10/22 and another .308 in the trunk. The extra versatility would be important. But this would also greatly complicate ammo & mags requirements and other stuff will be just as important. You also don't know what will be happening at checkpoints. Of course, you avoid them if possible but... They may/may care about a few guns (here is possible application for PM's) but they will definately have issues if you look like a resupply vehicle for the local militia. |
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I belive each person should have one rifle,one shotgun & one quality sidearm, as a minimum requirement. Each person should carry the same caliber firearms/ammo (minimum),preferably the same make & model guns. Firearm accesories & ammo should be proportionate to the size of your unit. The BOV should have a dedicated 12ga. shotgun & pistol. The BOL should have several dedicated 12ga. shotguns sorry if that was way to specific |
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But I see that as a different type of situation than a briefcase nuke going off in a city hundreds of miles away. And again - most poeple do not have anyplace to go. That's the problem. If they can bunker down in there home, away from the immediate danger, I think for most people that IS the safest bet. For those who do leave, in the case of a nuke, they better have a bug location that is out of the vicinity of the fallout area. Most don't. Those who are out of that vicinity likely won't have the immediate means or time to get there early enough. It's a tough situation and hopefully you won't ever have to face it. Wallew, do you really think a total SHTF scenario is just around the corner? Any other possible scenarios beside the nuclear one? Just curious what you you think may happen... . |
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I'm not good w/ Glock #'s but is that 3 different calibers 9, 40, 45? You also have 3 different rifle calibers. There is no "Honey, I'm out, throw me another mag" in this setup. Even if you want to stick w/ the .45/.308 for yourself, have you considered having your wife & son carry the same things? |
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All this talk about arming yourselve and your families is one thing but reality will strike quick if the time ever comes. It's one thing to be out on your own, playing Rambo. It's another thing when you watch your only son take a bullet in the head. Hopefully you will never ever have to experience anything like that. Always remember that VIOLENCE should be kept as an absolute LAST RESORT. . |
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This country is still a long way off from any sort of control like that...unless my ideas on what Martial Law is are not in line with yours. . |
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I live in a hurricane shooting gallery. We've been lucky since the 04 and 05 seasons, we havent had one, but Ive personaly been through over 5 hurricanes and untold tropical storms. The hurricanes I've been in have ranged the full gambit of the scale.
I live in a modern concreate block building thats rated to stand a good amount of hurricane force, though nothing is perfect. I also live in one of the highest poitns in south florida (though its still less than 30 feet above sea level). The problem with katrina was the whole city was BELOW sea level. Its like living a bowl surrouned by soup. We stayed put during the 04 and 05 hurricanes and we made it out just fine other than some minro property damage and car damage. Now that I have kids, I would re think that. The other problem of being is florida is, well, being in florida. The whole state is a long, thin peninsula. Its takes a hella long time to get out of florida, even in a non-emergency. There are only a couple high ways out on each side of the state and a handfull that span the state. Needless to say, florida is not the easiest place to exit in an emergency, so bugging out would have to be done well before the emergency. If a nuke went off in miami (something you can anticipate months ahead of time) it would be a clust F*** getting out of this state, if it went off in say Jackson ville or Orlando, you can pretty much forget about getting out in the next few days. With hurricanes theres a little warning. |
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